tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3891434218564545511.post5527883158440124950..comments2024-03-28T13:23:50.623-05:00Comments on Alexander Pruss's Blog: Divine simplicity and responsibility for creationAlexander R Prusshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05989277655934827117noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3891434218564545511.post-43388991866578087192021-09-03T11:15:13.121-05:002021-09-03T11:15:13.121-05:00If divine intention is something contingent, then ...If divine intention is something contingent, then it is a part of creation since everything contingent is created by God.Alexander R Prusshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05989277655934827117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3891434218564545511.post-7131651511926578032021-09-03T05:59:58.203-05:002021-09-03T05:59:58.203-05:00@Dominik, Could you explain what you mean by eve...@Dominik, Could you explain what you mean by every idea being dependent on the same thing and being a limit upon?<br /><br />As for divine intention, couldn't it be prior to creation in the sense that without the intention, creation wouldn't be caused?Wesley C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05903323901343952714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3891434218564545511.post-5223255521395581122021-09-03T05:50:33.309-05:002021-09-03T05:50:33.309-05:00Actually no, it's impossible for limited essen...Actually no, it's impossible for limited essences to be within the most fundamental ontological level. Due to the fact that every idea is dependent on the same thing and that every idea is a limit upon that which it's dependent upon we can show that there are models of extrinsic divine willing that are consistent with Pruss's proposal. Additionally there is no such thing as the divine intention that is posterior to God and prior to creation, this layer gets eliminated through the immediacy of God's willing something and its existing. I think Alex would agree with that. <br /><br />More later once I have timeDominik Kowalskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14634739012344612398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3891434218564545511.post-67428875641529558102021-09-01T20:29:49.506-05:002021-09-01T20:29:49.506-05:00This is a good lesson you have laid out. It came u...This is a good lesson you have laid out. It came up in a recent discussion we had about the topic of modal collapse: www.classicaltheism.com/christophercommentaryJohnDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11610068881068162920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3891434218564545511.post-48061950737820532632021-09-01T02:38:12.828-05:002021-09-01T02:38:12.828-05:00But, Alex, "horses" do not exist until (...But, Alex, "horses" do not exist until (logically) posterior to God's intention to create them, hence "horses" are pert of God's inner state.Walter Van den Ackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16101735542155226072noreply@blogger.com