tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3891434218564545511.post9035986112963160724..comments2024-03-27T20:37:09.185-05:00Comments on Alexander Pruss's Blog: A false principle concerning desireAlexander R Prusshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05989277655934827117noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3891434218564545511.post-83699509219579540152008-09-25T15:08:00.000-05:002008-09-25T15:08:00.000-05:00Well, since it's a one-step argument, either the p...Well, since it's a one-step argument, either the premise will be question-begging or the argument will be invalid. For my money, there is nothing anywhere in the neighborhood of psychological hedonism that is true.Heath Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13535886546816778688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3891434218564545511.post-88699573726907727512008-09-25T09:06:00.000-05:002008-09-25T09:06:00.000-05:00I feel like I'm missing something. How do you kee...I feel like I'm missing something. How do you keep your criticism to extending to all reasoning about means and ends? If I choose a particular end, I then must deliberate about the best means to accomplish that end. I then pursue, or seek to accomplish, those means. Am I not only pursuing those means for that end? <BR/><BR/>To complicate the case, if what I want is an end accomplished by certain means then that complex, the end and its means, is the true end being sought, e.g., I don't merely want the 'end' of my wife cooking me supper, but want that to come about by the means of her love motivating her to provide for me, I wouldn't want the end if I had to physically force her.<BR/><BR/>If you're taking 'pursue' to necessarily be bound up with the nature of an end, so that you can never properly 'pursue' a means, then that seems well and good. But I took you to be saying something else.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15649639750554301227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3891434218564545511.post-24583857021911566732008-09-25T08:38:00.000-05:002008-09-25T08:38:00.000-05:00Doesn't that make the argument more question-beggi...Doesn't that make the argument more question-begging, though?Alexander R Prusshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05989277655934827117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3891434218564545511.post-4385607698330775912008-09-25T07:54:00.000-05:002008-09-25T07:54:00.000-05:00I suspect that if you use "in order to" to frame t...I suspect that if you use "in order to" to frame the principle, as in "Whenever we pursue X, we pursue X in order to get pleasure" you will eliminate a lot of these fallacies.Heath Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13535886546816778688noreply@blogger.com