Are you sure this is valid? If we accept 1, we should IMO reject 2. Because if 1 is true, God can only exist in the supreme way of existing and unless existing as a fictional character is the same as existing in the supreme way, 2 cannot be true.
Suppose for a reductio that God does not exist in the supreme way of existing. Then God exists as a fictional character (by 2). Then God exists in the supreme way of existing (by 1, since existing as a fictional character is a way of existing). That's a contradiction.
This is an April fools joke. It is not a valid argument because...
a proper conditional proof. Such a proof should take the form
1. A → B ("If A, then B") 2. B → C ("If B, then C") 3. A (conditional proof assumption, "Suppose A is true") 4. B (follows from lines 1 and 3, modus ponens; "If A then B; A, therefore B") 5. C (follows from lines 2 and 4, modus ponens; "If B then C; B, therefore C") 6. A → C (follows from lines 3–5, conditional proof; "If A, then C")
So for this argument it would be
1. If God exists in any way, he exists in the supreme way of existing. 2. If God does not exist in the supreme way of existing, God exists as a fictional character. 3. Suppose it true God exists in some way 4. God exists in the supreme way of existing 5. God exists as a fictional character 6 God exists in the supreme way of existing, therefore God exists as a fictional character?
Wow, that is truly bollixed. Either I made a mistake, the argument is just nonsense, or Pruss proved God is a fictional character. ????
I think the thing is it's just not a proper proof of anything. The conclusion as I think the argument is intended to make one think would follow from by asserting that God is not a fictional character.
But that would beg the question egregiously.
I see the problem. The consequent in 1, B, doesn't match the antecedent in 2, which should also be B.
OK, now I think I have absorbed the secondary comment and this is supposed to be a reductio ad absurdem and not a conditional proof.
In that case it is simply an equivocation fallacy, because existence as a fictional character is a different sense of existence than actual existence which is the type of existence necessary to carry P1.
Existing as a fictional character would be a way of existing. I myself am sceptical of fictional characters, so I wouldn't say that anything exists as a fictional character.
I would think that those who accept fictional existence as a kind of existence would be disinclined to accept (1) unless they already think it is true that God exists in a supreme way. Valid but perhaps a bit question begging.
Are you sure this is valid?
ReplyDeleteIf we accept 1, we should IMO reject 2. Because if 1 is true, God can only exist in the supreme way of existing and unless existing as a fictional character is the same as existing in the supreme way, 2 cannot be true.
It's valid.
ReplyDeleteHere are the steps between 2 and 3.
Suppose for a reductio that God does not exist in the supreme way of existing.
Then God exists as a fictional character (by 2).
Then God exists in the supreme way of existing (by 1, since existing as a fictional character is a way of existing).
That's a contradiction.
So, God exists in the supreme way of existing.
This is an April fools joke. It is not a valid argument because...
ReplyDeletea proper conditional proof. Such a proof should take the form
1. A → B ("If A, then B")
2. B → C ("If B, then C")
3. A (conditional proof assumption, "Suppose A is true")
4. B (follows from lines 1 and 3, modus ponens; "If A then B; A, therefore B")
5. C (follows from lines 2 and 4, modus ponens; "If B then C; B, therefore C")
6. A → C (follows from lines 3–5, conditional proof; "If A, then C")
So for this argument it would be
1. If God exists in any way, he exists in the supreme way of existing.
2. If God does not exist in the supreme way of existing, God exists as a fictional character.
3. Suppose it true God exists in some way
4. God exists in the supreme way of existing
5. God exists as a fictional character
6 God exists in the supreme way of existing, therefore God exists as a fictional character?
Wow, that is truly bollixed. Either I made a mistake, the argument is just nonsense, or Pruss proved God is a fictional character. ????
I think the thing is it's just not a proper proof of anything. The conclusion as I think the argument is intended to make one think would follow from by asserting that God is not a fictional character.
But that would beg the question egregiously.
I see the problem. The consequent in 1, B, doesn't match the antecedent in 2, which should also be B.
So, actually what he gave was
1. A->B
2. ~B-> C
3. C
ERROR MESSAGE
OK, now I think I have absorbed the secondary comment and this is supposed to be a reductio ad absurdem and not a conditional proof.
ReplyDeleteIn that case it is simply an equivocation fallacy, because existence as a fictional character is a different sense of existence than actual existence which is the type of existence necessary to carry P1.
Still have to think this is an April Fools joke.
Existing as a fictional character would be a way of existing. I myself am sceptical of fictional characters, so I wouldn't say that anything exists as a fictional character.
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ReplyDeleteI would think that those who accept fictional existence as a kind of existence would be disinclined to accept (1) unless they already think it is true that God exists in a supreme way. Valid but perhaps a bit question begging.
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