Showing posts with label external time. Show all posts
Showing posts with label external time. Show all posts

Tuesday, April 28, 2026

The Real Presence and Relativity Theory

Jesus Christ like all human beings has an internal clock. One can measure that clock in heartbeats or in lower level physical interactions or in some other way. Let’s measure it in “internal years”. If Jesus was born in 4 BC, then in 4 BC, his internal clock was at about a year (he was conceived about 0.75 years before he was born). In 1 BC, it was at 4 years, in 1 AD, it was at 5 years, and in 30 AD, it was at 34 years.

I don’t know what Jesus’s internal clock was at in 100 AD, and it’s not immediately obvious that the question makes sense. For it is not immediately obvious that there is a correlation between time on earth and time in heaven of such a sort it makes sense to ask “What is happening in heaven right now?” After all, according to Relativity Theory, it doesn’t make sense to ask “What is happening right now in the Andromeda Galaxy” without specifying a reference frame for the “right now”, and it’s not immediately clear that there is a common reference frame between heaven and earth.

However, the real presence of Jesus in the Eucharist does provide a temporal correlation between heaven and earth. Around 22:45 UTC today, Jesus will come to be present in our campus parish. Moreover, Jesus will be present as an adult glorified human, not as the three-year-old he was in 1 BC. There thus appears to be a fact of the matter as to what his internal clock will be showing when he comes to be present at 22:45 UTC in Waco today.

Interestingly, this gives a temporal ordering on events scattered across the earth apparently independent of our ordinary relativistic reference frames. For if the Eucharist is celebrated around 22:45 UTC in Waco and around 22:45 UTC in London, there is a fact of the matter whether Christ as present in Waco is older or younger or at the same age (according to his internal clock), and this fact provides a reference-frame independent temporal ordering between these two Eucharistic celebrations.

Indeed, since according to Catholic and Orthodox faith, Christ remains Eucharistically present in the tabernacles across the world, we constantly have a temporal ordering between events scattered spatially across the world. In principle, this defines a theologically privileged reference frame between scattered events—a Eucharistic reference frame. Events at locations z1 and z2 in spacetime are Eucharistically simultaneous, we might say, provided that Christ as Eucharistically present at z1 and at z2 has the same value of the internal clock.

Of course, some philosophers of time think there is an objective reference frame in the physical world. If they are right, then very likely the theologically privileged frame is the same as the objective one.

All that said, it is not completely clear to me that Christ as Eucharistically present has to have a well-defined value of his internal clock. But I suspect so, because of the intuition that it is the adult and not toddler Jesus who is Eucharistically present.

Tuesday, June 14, 2022

There could still be a persistence-based cosmological argument even if there were existential inertia

Suppose that today at noon, Felix the cat enters a time machine and travels back to the time of the dinosaurs, where he spends the rest of his life hunting small reptiles. According to the doctrine of existential inertia, objects have a blockable tendency to continue existing.

Question: If Felix has existential inertia, was his inertial tendency to continue existing blocked at noon when he time-traveled to the past, and hence failed to exist past today’s noon?

My intuition is that the answer is negative. Existential inertia seems to me to be about “having a future” and today at noon, Felix does have a future, even if that future is in the distant past. In other words, if there is such a thing as existential inertia, it concerns what I call “internal” rather than “external” time.

Beyond mere intuition, here is a reason for a defender of existential inertia to agree with me. If existential inertia concerns external time, then in a relativistic world it is a doctrine that says that an object that exists at point z of spacetime has a tendency to exist somewhere or other in the forwards lightcone centered on z. But there is something odd about a metaphysical principle, like existential inertia is supposed to be, that impels an object to continue to exist in some location or other in some infinite set of locations (say, the infinite number of locations in the forward lightcone one second away from the present in some reference frame), without impelling the object to exist in any particular location, or even imposing any kind of probability distribution on where it is to exist. Moreover, it is not clear why the forward lightcone would be so metaphysically special that a fundamental metaphysical principle would coordinate with lightcones so neatly.

Perhaps this is not completely convincing. But it has some legs. There is thus some reason to think that existential inertia applies to internal rather than external time. But if so, then existential inertia has not removed all that needs to be explained about persistence. For a normal cat not only tends to continue to exist in its internal-time future, but also tends to continue to exist in its external-time future, since normally there is no time travel. And this external-time persistence is not explained by existential inertia, if existential inertia concerns the external-time future. So there is a persistence to explain, and theism offers an explanation. There is still room for an argument for theism from persistence.

Here is a closely related explanatory problem: Why is it that internal and external time tend to be correlated, so that internal-time persistence tends to imply external-time persistence?

Suppose that, contrary to my relativity theory intuitions, one insists that existential inertia concerns external-time persistence rather than internal-time persistence? Then there is still something to be explained: the correlation between internal and external time.

Monday, January 20, 2020

An argument against time travel or for temporal parts or for internal time

Start with this plausible claim:

  1. If two objects are composed of the very same particles at the same time, then they have the same shape.

But now consider a statue of a horse that is reshaped into a statue of a tree and then time-travels back to sit besides the statue of the horse. Then the statue of the horse and the statue of the tree are composed of the very same particles at the same time, and yet they do not have the same shape.

I see three ways out of this paradox.

  1. Deny the possibility of time travel.

  2. Subscribe to temporal parts theory and modify (1) to speak of temporal parts of particles instead of particles.

  3. Distinguish external and internal time, and qualify (1) to refer to internal time.

My preference is (4).

Sunday, July 28, 2019

Internally eternal life

Suppose that starting this year (2019), I and all people who are important to me will do the following: We will live for 20 years on a delightful planet, and then travel through spacetime both 20 years back and to another delightful planet, and repeat ad infinitum.

Then, we won’t exist after the year 2039. But notice that this needn’t matter to us! Indeed, we are no worse off than if we skipped the time travel, and lived forever, moving between delightful planets every 20 years.

This is yet another thought experiment showing that what is important to us is internal and not external time.

Thursday, June 7, 2018

External time as such doesn't matter to us

Suppose a deity threatened to move us all to a universe where everything is pretty much as in our world, except that electric charges are reversed and the laws of nature are tweaked to ensure that this reverse doesn’t affect our lives. Thus, in that world, we are based not on carbon atoms, but on anti-carbon anti-atoms (they will have six anti-protons and six positrons, etc.), but the laws are tweaked so that the anti-atoms would behave just like atoms.

Assuming we can survive the shift, it seems that except for sentimental considerations (maybe when Grandma’s old wedding ring is replaced by a ring of anti-gold, it’s no longer the same ring) it would make no difference to us.

Similarly, if the deity threatened to spatially rotate the world by 180 degrees around some axis, that would make no difference to us.

What if the deity offered to rotate our world in time by 180 degrees, with causation now running temporally backwards, with us being born in the future and dying in the past, but everything being kept intact. It seems to me that this would make no difference to us.

Similarly, it seems to me that if the deity offered to rotate our four-dimensional world so that the temporal dimension and a spatial dimension were swapped, so that we would be born and die at the same time, but in different places along a spatial axis, and causation would run unidirectionally along the spatial axis, again that would make no difference to us.

I think these thought experiments suggest that external time as such is not important. What matters is how the distribution of things interacts with the causal order.

To be honest, though, I am not completely confident that any of these thought experiments make sense. It could be that any dimension along which causation runs much as causation runs along the temporal direction in our world is therefore a time dimension. But if so, then I think it's still true that it is causation, not external time as such, that matters.

I am less confident of this in the case of internal time.

Friday, April 17, 2015

Living in the moment, literally

Jim lives for a minute. Then he activates the time-and-space machine in his backpack, and travels to position one minute back and one meter back. Then the story repeats, giving Jim a lifespan of 80 internal years, all contained within a single minute of external time.

We could shorten that minute of external time to a second, or to any non-zero length of time, by making him jump back in time even faster.

Bold Hypothesis: We could shorten it to zero.

This works most easily if Jim is made out of ghostly matter that can overlap itself (nothing absurd about this: two photons can be in the same place at the same time), and as we shorten the time interval, we shorten the spatial distance of the jump.

The Bold Hypothesis basically says that just as one can have a time-travel machine, one can have a time-non-travel machine that keeps one in the same place in external time for all one's life.

Given the possibility of time travel, and the possibility of discrete time, it's not hard to argue for the Bold Hypothesis. Suppose at each instant of time, Jim can set the time-machine to determine where he will be in the next internal instant. Then why couldn't he set it so that in the next internal instant he will be at the same external instant as he is now.

Given the Bold Hypothesis, Jim would have a lifespan of 80 internal years, all in one moment.

All this suggests that when thinking about time, we should be careful with moving from our subjective experience of time and change--which Jim would have in his all-at-one-moment life--to claims about what external time is like.

Monday, March 16, 2015

Internal time, external time, probability and disagreement

Suppose that Jim lives a normal human life from the year 2000 to the year 2100. Without looking at a clock, what probability should Jim attach to the hypothesis that an even number of minutes has elapsed from the year 2000? Surely, probability 1/2.

Sally, on the other hand, lives a somewhat odd human life from the year 2000 to the year 2066. During every even-numbered minute of her life, her mental and physical functioning is accelerated by a factor of two. She can normally notice this, because the world around her, including the second hands of clocks, seems to slow down by a factor of two. She has won many races by taking advantage of this. An even-numbered external minute subjectively takes two minutes. Suppose that Sally is now in a room where there is nothing in motion other than herself, so she can't tell whether this was a sped-up minute or not. What probability should Sally attach to the hypothesis that an even number of minutes has elapsed from the year 2000?

If we set our probabilities by objective time, then the answer is 1/2, as in Jim's case. But this seems mistaken. If we're going to assign probabilities in cases like this—and that's not clear to me—then I think we should assign 2/3. After all, subjectively speaking, 2/3 of Sally's life occurs during the even-numbered minutes.

There are a number of ways of defending the 2/3 judgment. One way would be to consider relativity theory. We could mimic the Jim-Sally situation by exploiting the twin paradox (granted, the accelerations over a period of a minute would be deadly, so we'd have to suppose that Sally has superpowers), and in that case surely the probabilities that Sally should assign should be looked at from Sally's reference frame.

Another way to defend the judgment would be to imagine a third person, Frank, who lives all the time twice as fast as normal, but during odd-numbered minutes, he is frozen unconscious for half of each second. For Frank, an even numbered minute has 60 seconds' worth of being conscious and moving, while an odd numbered minute has 30 seconds' worth of it, and external reality stutters. If Frank is in a sensory deprivation chamber where he can't tell if external reality is stuttering, then it seems better for him to assign 2/3 to its being an even-numbered minute, since he's unconscious for half of each odd-numbered one. But Frank's case doesn't seem significantly different from Sally's. (Just imagine taking the limit as the unconscious/conscious intervals get shorter and shorter.)

A third way is to think about time travel. Suppose you're on what is subjectively a long trip in a time machine, a trip that's days internal time long. And now you're asked if it's an even-numbered minute by your internal time (the time shown by your wristwatch, but not by the big clock on the time machine console, which shows external years that flick by in internal minutes). It doesn't matter how the time machine moves relative to external time. Maybe it accelerates during every even-numbered minute. Surely this doesn't matter. It's your internal time that matters.

Alright, that's enough arguing for this. So Sally should assign 2/3. But here's a funny thing. Jim and Sally then disagree on how likely it is that it's an even-numbered minute, even though it seems we can set up the case so they have the same relevant evidence as to what time it. There is something paradoxical here.

A couple of responses come to mind:

  • They really have different evidence. In some way yet to be explained, their different prior life experiences are relevant evidence.
  • The thesis that there cannot be rational disagreement in the face of the same evidence is true when restricted to disagreement about objective matters. But what time it is now is not an objective matter. Thus, the A-theory of time is false.
  • There can be rational disagreement in the face of the same evidence.
  • There are no meaningful temporally self-locating probabilities.

Wednesday, April 10, 2013

The flow of time

Famously, D. C. Williams ridiculed the deep-seated intuition (at the heart of Bergson's thought, of course) that there is a flow of time, asking how fast time is flowing, if it's flowing. Some wits have tried to respond: "Always at a second per second." But there is a much better and less trivial answer. And interestingly it is an answer that has a home in the B-theory of time.

The Twin Paradox suggests that we should distinguish the internal time of an individual from something like the generally shared external time of the human community. Thinking about time travel suggests a similar distinction, as Lewis has noted. But once we have a distinction between internal and external time, then we can give a non-trivial answer to Williams' question. The flow of time is measured in terms of external units of time per internal units of time. If external time is defined by the shared life of the human community (that's one among a number of options—we should probably understand "external time" in a context-sensitive way), normally time flows at one external second per second. But if I were to engage in travel at relativistic speeds, it could be that in a month of internal time, eight years of external time would elapse. And if I were to engage in gradual backwards time travel, then I would have a negative rate of time's flow: maybe I would be moving at −1 external century per internal second. (In non-gradual time travel, the rate would be undefined.)

The distinction between internal and external time fits best with the B-theory. So the notion of time's flow, surprisingly, seems to have its home in the B-theory.